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Weather & finance       started by nick on 13 Nov 2006   (10341)
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From jimboman

To nick

13 Nov 2006 7:47 AM
Money helps if you have a business plan and a proven business track record. Otherwise, you need to go in one of the skilled categories. Going as a skilled person is easier if you qualify, because once there, you don't have to satisfy any other criteria. As a business person, you have to succeed in your business and employ two, one legged Australian ex criminals with no desire to work, for at least 20 years (or something like that). Carmel, who used to post on here quite a lot, went on a business visa, and she and her hubby went through hell by all accounts. Visit the IMMI website if you haven't already If you are looking to retire or just move with heaps of money, then Australia, has strict rules on who is eligible. Retiring in Australia, will not give you any rights there. You won't be able to vote, you will never be classed as a permanent resident, and you will never get citizenship. You will have to be re-assessed every 5 years to make sure you meet the requirements. Fill in your profile, so that anyone who wants to offer help, has some idea of your situation. The weather in Perth in their winter (May to September roughly) is about the same as a normal English summer. You can go to the beach and sunbathe in the middel of winter out there (on odd days). You could never do that here. JIM
From Boot

To nick

13 Nov 2006 11:38 AM
Hi Nick, I have been living in Perth for just over three years, and there is an element of truth in what all the people who have replied have said. The weather pattern seems to be: April can be partly hot, but is also changeable, in readiness for May, which is where it really starts changing for winter. Winter proper runs from June to August, but although it is generally a bit warmer in September, winter is not properly over til October is out. During September and October, you get a mixture of beautiful sunny days and other days which are flashbacks to winter, with squally showers and intermittent sunshine, coolness and wind. We have a Mediterranean climate which is basically hot, dry summers and warm, wet winters. That said, the average daytime temperature in Perth in winter (June-Aug) rarely drops below about 14 degrees. When we take the kids to the school on winter mornings, I shiver away - just like in England - putting on the car heating etc. Yet it always amuses me that the temperature is actually close to the mean UK temperature in July of 16 degrees! All too often, as well, I wear a scarf (not usually a jacket, except at night if we are going out on a winter evening) and/or a cardigan; drop the kids at school and go shopping; then emerge, at 11 or 12 noon, to a boiling car and am completely cooked because in that couple of hours, the temp has gone up to 23 or even 25. Nights are another matter, though. It is fairly common for the winter night temperature often to drop to 8 or 9 degrees, sometimes to 5 degrees and occasionally 0-3 degrees. We had the coldest night on record in Perth last winter - I think it was 0 or -1. On the other hand, as Jim said, though, in winter you will also get gloriously sunny days - 23 or 24 degrees etc. We've even had 30 degree days in Sept and Oct. But my octogenarian aunt, who has been here over twenty years, wisely reminds me that you can never be sure winter's over til October is out. Average October daytime temps are in the early twenties. November is generally much sunnier, with average temps around 25 degrees by day and quite a lot of 30-odd degree days (34 degrees forecast tomorrow, for example, 31 today). By the end of November, the 30-odd degree days are taking over, it stays that way with temps 28-35 all December, still hotting up. In Jan and Feb you are looking at around 35 degrees+ nearly all the time, with 38-40 degrees commonplace and some days we get 44's and 45's. But remember that, unlike the UK, we are properly prepared for it, with aircon in the houses, cars and all the shopping centres. One thing about Perth, though: the sun is never far away. Even if it's a wet and windy winter's day, often the squally showers last a couple of minutes then stop and the sun comes out. And you might get a very grey day, but the next day can be fantastically sunny. I think we get, on average, 9 or 10 hours per day, all year round, of sunshine - making us the sunniest state capital in the whole of Australia. boot
From DinkyDi

To Boot

13 Nov 2006 1:11 PM
Excellent post, Boot. I'd like to add the following though: In winter at night it is absolutley Baltic in the average house. Given the amount of (single galzed) glass in the average house the houses get cold at night. Though it gets as low as 5 at night there is no central heating in houses here unless you have reverse cycle aircon (which can blow hot) or ducted gas (very unusual) The usual ways of keeping warm are either a log burning fire or an unflued gas heater plugged into a baynot point in the lounge. I regard unflued heaters as criminally dangerous - they are lethal if not properly serviced and put out small amounts of CO even if properly serviced. The log fire will heat the main living area only. You get used to this but the moral of the story is a) you will need those duvets and b) pack some jumpers too. Finally, when it rains though the showers are usually brief they are very heavy. A light waterproof jacket is a must for winter ( a heavy one is probably too warm except for night time use).
From Boot

To DinkyDi

13 Nov 2006 2:01 PM
Yes Di, excellent additions to my post, too. Winter in houses can be chilly, especially in the evenings. You DEFINITELY need duvets! We have tried the climate control ones which are supposed to suit any time of year, but we still can find a use for our higher tog winter duvets on the coldest nights. In summer we have summer duvets but often end up sleeping on top. With heating in winter, you've hit it on the head with the windows and the draft therefrom. We got a Rinnai heater which heats large spaces, but some of these can be slightly smelly and/or noisy (ours is OK) and we do get concerned about possible fumes so we leave our window slightly ajar. Our house has floor tiles, loads of big windows, very high ceilings, plus we are up one of the hillier parts in a coastal suburb with the winds off the sea blasting through. But it is not that bad in winter and we find that just that one fire keeps us warm enough. And yes, although on many a winter day it is perhaps best to dress in layers (ie cardy in the morning for the school run but tee shirt underneath for late morning) on the wet and blustery days, it is heavy-duty rainwear you need, with your layers underneath, rather than the warm, elegant, wool type winter coats and jackets (those are only really of use in the evenings when it is actually cold). I can't believe how ridiculously impractical half the ladies' coats in the shops this year were for the winter season! My kids, by the way, have got light rainproof jackets which we bought for about $10 at Red Dot. Cheers Di, boot
From Boot

To nick

13 Nov 2006 9:33 PM
Ordinary socks under your jeans or fairly light long pants in winter (that said, many people still wear shorts during the day, even in winter). No need for really thick ones. No need for several layers in bed in winter, either - a decent medium/high tog duvet should do the trick. Not many people have central heating. But some have reverse cycle aircon, which blows warm air around in winter. Can't believe the aircon is on already this year, in NOVEMBER. 36 degrees up our neck of the woods today - much hotter than everyone thought. boot