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HELP SCHOOL QUESTIONS!!       started by Capacity on 25 Aug 2004   (2075)
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From Capacity

25 Aug 2004 5:15 PM
(7730)
Dear Aussiemoves My head is spinning - please help. I have enquired at the Catholic Kindy in Scarborough for my daughter for 2005 - although they are full she is top of the list - she is catholic? However, their school times are quite odd - 0830 - 1130, Monday thru Thursday. Question: what if I am working full day - what do I do with her for the rest of the day and Friday?? Is anyone in the same boat - working parents with young children - or do moms generally stay at home? Worried Yvette
From Dave_Trace

To Capacity

25 Aug 2004 6:53 PM
(7736)
Hi Yvetter My son goes to Kindy 4 sessions a week, two mornings, two afternoons which totally buggers up my chances of working full time...oh that and the fact I have another little one at home too!! I did enquire about nursery at our local one in Carramar and they wanted $50 a day!! That's on a par with the UK and when you're earning half your UK wage...ouch! You can get help from Centrelink for fees, I don't know too much about that though. I know the nursery by us is jam packed with a waiting list. I have always stayed at home with my kids...it's only now that I really feel I'm the one that's suffered for that as my brain has started to dribble out of my ears with boredom!!!
From suemac

To Capacity

25 Aug 2004 8:08 PM
(7740)
Kinder year is a nightmare for any sort of working. Those are pretty normal sessions for kinder - days/hours etc vary but essentially very part-time for Junior. Child care centres offer full day care with kinder sessions and although the full day rate is about $50, unless you are pretty massively loaded, you won't pay that much. My 4 year old is at kinder 3 half days a week, and at child care one full day with his brother while I work that day. To work full time or even 3 or so days a week, I should imagine child care would be a must. Sue
From suemalpass

To suemac

25 Aug 2004 9:49 PM
(7745)
it doesn't take much to baffle me and yet again i have a list of questions my middle boy is 3 on 20/10/04... when will he start kindy? my little girl is 13 mos., is daycare readily available say in ocean reef, mullaloo, duncraig areas??? is there any facility for after school care for children or holiday clubs???
From suemalpass

To suemac

25 Aug 2004 9:49 PM
(7746)
it doesn't take much to baffle me and yet again i have a list of questions my middle boy is 3 on 20/10/04... when will he start kindy? my little girl is 13 mos., is daycare readily available say in ocean reef, mullaloo, duncraig areas??? is there any facility for after school care for children or holiday clubs???
From suemac

To suemalpass

26 Aug 2004 6:34 AM
(7777)
We're in Melb so I hope its similar else you really will be baffled! If your littlie's b'day is Oct, he'd start 3 year old kinder the next year. 4 year old kinder the following year, then school after that. Some kinders will start your child straight after their 3rd birthday, if they have a vacancy. Usually only worthwhile if their b'day is in the first half of the year. 3 year old kinder is even shorter than 4 year old. Usually only 1-2 sessions a week, short ones too. We're doing the long day at child care for that year, so I an do a full day or two of work a week, before the 4 year old year which is when they really get into the kinder scene, friends, choosing schools that other little mates are going to etc. Most schools offer after school care, some do before school care too. Usually about $10 a session. So if they are in before and after school, its $20 for the day. School hols are a nightmare. That's when you wish you bought out Nana and a few aunties with you. Holiday clubs that I have seen advertised don't seem to be a solution - 'sessions' again, more to get them off your hands tha a child care solution. But I'm still looking... Sue
From ABCDiamond

To suemac

26 Aug 2004 9:55 AM
(7782)
Talking about Kindies, here's a spanner for the works :) Remember that Schools can be very State specific ! In NSW my daughter started Kindergarten when she was 4yrs and 8months old. It was full time 8.45 to 3.00 Monday to Friday. The following year was year 1 in school, with the same hours. Prior to Kindergarten she went to what I thought was a pre-school centre for 2 days per week. We then moved up to QLD, and found that Kindergartens were for younger children, before they went to pre-school at age 4, which in some schools was 5 x half days per week, but in others was 5 full days per week. Confused ? I was, and sometimes I still am. But it's better to be aware, that it may be confusing, so that you ensure that you know what you are reading. PS: I don't have a clue about Perth :)
From w4rbx

To suemac

26 Aug 2004 11:42 PM
(7818)
Hi Sue. I don`t have a question about schools although I am sure that this will come in due course as I have 3 of the little monkeys, but I haven`t been logged on for a while and as I was looking back through some of the messages I came across yours. You mention that you are living in Melbourne which is where we are headed hopefully very soon ( we`ve just been requested for medicals/police checks ). We were originally intending to go to Perth as my brother and his family are there and loving it but we have had to go state sponsored which means that we have to go to Melbourne for 2 years first. My brother says that M/bourne is really nice and thinks we will settle there altogether but all our homework was done on Perth and so we don`t know very much about it. Are there any places you would recommend - my hubbie is a plumber and I am a beauty therapist. We love the beach. Is there a divide with the weather i.e are some places a bit warmer than others or is it pretty much the same across the board? Sorry for all the questions but it really does feel like a million miles away! Any info would be appreciated. Thanks Sharon
From suemac

To w4rbx

27 Aug 2004 9:20 AM
(7825)
Hi Sharon Essentially if you want to be near the beach, you will probably be a little way out of the city itself. In our opinion no real loss if your 3 little monkeys are anything like our 2! Its a nice enough city centre and as child friendly as possible, but no fun for a toddler, he informs me. Down the Mornington peninsula is gorgeous, increasingly so as you travel south. We have friends in Mt Martha who adore it there. Its on the bay, so no waves if any of your kids are potential world surf champs. I hear via the grapevine, very anecdotally that the weather is a bit better down there. It really is a big old place, Melb, and with your occupations, I guess you will find employment just about anywhere. On the west side of the city, there are options too, but I am pretty clueless about that area. we are out in the east, in the Dandenongs, great for mountain biking, walking and devonshire teas most importantly. We are about as far from the beach as you could go, but its still only 45 minutes down to Edithvale, which is a great kiddie beach on the bay. People drive and drive here, we're an hour from the city and that's seen as fairly normal commuting. Saying that, on the whole, conditions for driving are very pleasant. So hard to recommend a few spots off the top of my head, there are heaps of great spots. Maybe go through to www.realestate.com.au and see what you would be able to afford, and fire back with questions about the suburb??? Plus any other questions of course! Sue
From Maggie

To suemac

27 Aug 2004 9:43 AM
(7826)
Hi Sharon, I read your mail with interest. We live on Phillip Island which is about 2 hours drive from the City of Melbourne. It's a beautiful area. All along the coast almost up to Dandenong there are beaches etc. Don't think htey are surf beaches, but the view is nice and we will eventually get around to visiting some of the smaller places along the way. There are loads of gorgeous beaches here, some surf and some safe swimming. The Mornington Peninsula is the other side of the Bay and we had an Aussiemove get together there a few weeks ago. It looked lovely but the weather was foul so we didn't get to inspect the beaches. As yest we have not driven down to the tip of the Peninsula. On the other side of Melbourne, across another Bay, you head out to Geelong and the Great Ocean Road. We are going to Geelong today for the weekend for a family get together, then the UK visitors are heading off down the Great Ocean Road for a few days. I'm looking forward to hearing more about that. My 15 year old went to Lorne for a surf camp with school shortly after we arrived and the surf is great over there apparently. Can't tell you much about Melbourne City itself apart form the fact that I would prefer to have my kids on the coast! Weather is interesting. Lots of rain and wind. I've had enough of it now as we have had 2 winters back to back. This week though, in the middle of winter, the weather has been glorious and has really lifted our spirits. There are hairdresser businesses for sale on the Island. The only other thing I would mention is that at our get together there were a lot of plumbers and they seem to have to go back to college to get Aus equivalency or something. Margot would give you more info on that but you should factor in how close to an appropriate TAFE you would be. Schools are fantastic - very child orientated. Hope some of this helps. All the best, Maggie
From w4rbx

To Maggie

28 Aug 2004 1:52 AM
(7850)
Thanks for your help maggie. I hope I don`t sound thick but what is a TAFE? Sharon x
From Ushas

To w4rbx

28 Aug 2004 3:49 AM
(7852)
TAFE stands for Technical and Further Education and is like a technical college where people train mostly for trades and apprenticeships.
From margot

To w4rbx

01 Sep 2004 8:21 PM
(8055)
Hi Sharon Have been reading your messages, we are the ones that met up recently with Maggie & Barb and respective partners (All the plumbers!!) in Frankston recently. We have been here for nearly 2 years (Nov) and live in Skye which is between the two bays (Port Phillip & Western Port) 8 mins to the beach on Port Phillip and 20 mins to the Western Port. Fantastic area. Now the down side....Rick was a Self employed Plumber in England his qualifications were good enough to allow us into the country, but.. in Victoria, Plumbing is split into 6 areas:- Plumbing (Gasfitting Work) Plumbing (Mechanical Services) Work Plumbing (Rooding Stormwater) Work plumbing (Sanitory) Work Plumbing (Water Supply Work) Plumbing (Drianing Work) The problem here in Victoria, is that to actually work you need Registration in any one or more of the above, but that only allows you to work under supervision of a Licenced Plumber. So to be Registered you have to do a course at Tafe (College), once you have passed the inital Registration Test, which is a combination of practical & theory, then you sit a theory exam at the plumbing Council which then means you are Licenced to work in whcih ever one you have taken (Maybe all !!). When you first apply to the Plumbing Council, they review your application, so you must remember to write down all your experiences, not only in work completed but also in materials and tools. This is basically what has happened to all Plumbers that have arrived from England irrespective of age, status and visa. Any more inforamtion, only to glad to help.. been there, going through it. Spring/Summer more than makes up for it !! You will understand when you get here. Bye for now Rick & Margot
From margot

To margot

02 Sep 2004 12:06 PM
(8114)
Sorry, last message should really have had a title of Plumbing, hope people interested can pick this up. Further to the information given, when first arriving here, you should contact the Plumbing Council and they will decide what areas they feel you are competant in (all based on information you have given them). They may then give you provisional registration, which then means you have to pass the practical skills exam to gain full registration. If we think of any more, we will post it on the board, but if anyone has questions, please feel free to ask. There are four of us at Tafe who are all going through various stages of hell. Cheers Rick
From w4rbx

To margot

03 Sep 2004 4:49 AM
(8182)
Hi Rick and Margot. Thanks for your message. It was really useful. Just wondered how long the course at TAFE takes? also, what is the point in going through the ordeal of TRA etc. in this country if you have to start again when you get there??? Where would you suggest we look to settle? Your area sounds nice. Could you tell me a bit more about the weather as we would like to go somewhere fairly warm although i`m realising it`s not very warm anywhere in Melbourne. Hope i`ve got that bit wronge as after the rubbish summer we`ve had i need some SUNSHINE! Sorry for the million questions but i`m guessing you went through this pre moving??? Sharon and Andy ( frustrated plumber and beauty therapist ) p.s Are there any beauty salons nearby that you know of. I`m thinking of doing a few sculptured nails etc. mobile for a bit until we get settled - not sure just yet.
From margot

To w4rbx

05 Sep 2004 2:45 PM
(8306)
Hi you two, Where we live, we are at the start of the Mornington Penninsula, surrounded by wineries, which have restaurants & cafes etc. A lot of them have free wine tasting. A good web site for information on Victoria is www.visitvictoria.com.au When you are in England you expect all of Australia to be hot, well it's not !! having said that though, we have only had one frost this year and I didn't even have to scrape the car at 6.30 in the morning, so it can't be that bad. The Spring is usually warm, the temp today is about 16 degrees and sunny. Summer can reach up to 40 but normally it is around 30. It can also change very quickly though and drop from 40 to 20 in 10 mins, which can be a bit of a shock as 20 is cold then. Over Winter I have only used the tumble drier twice because if you can catch the sunny days, the sun is still very warm. With regards to hairdressers, there are shops advertising for staff regularly but haven't seen any mobile hairdressers, could be a niche, but you would need to check their regulations. The same applys to nails, there are heaps of shops doing this as well. It seems very popular here for false nails. Unfortunately, even though you are allowed in the Country having gone through all the checks and double checks, they are still very strict with Plumbers as it is one of the two protected industries, The other being Electricians. A plumber here cannot by law touch any fixed wiring over 24v. So, the fan on the gas fire that is broken, will have to have the electrician to fix it !! The length of the course depends on how quickly you are able to do it. The Tafe that Ricks goes to, only allows them to go 1 night a week for 3 hours and if you look at the other message we sent, you can see how many registrations you have to complete just to be able to work on your own. It is fine if you want to work for someone else because registration will alllow you to work and they are the licensed plumber who will sign your work off. So it all depends on what you want to do. We have found that a lot of people completly change their trades once they get here. I even know a diplomat who now drives a tram !! and one of the plumbers who has 15 years working for the gas board is now a welder and a Welsh slater has now got to do his plumbing roofing registration to be able to work. This is only our experience as everyones circumstances are different. Anyway, please let us know if you need any more info, off the the beach even though it is only Spring !! Cheers Rick & Margot