15 Dec 2009 9:13 AM
|I am looking for some good feedback on Perth as a friend who visited last month came back and tried to put me off. He said that the cost of living is more expensive, education isn't that great, its too isolated and I would get bored very quickly and that the average wage was much lower than the UK. Please give me some positive feedback to make me feel better.....please! Thanks Kendal (an Aussie originally from Manly but left when she was very very young). |
16 Dec 2009 11:01 AM
i must admit firstly to being neglectful of this site lately as had loads to do .. had visas through and had to validate them sooner than expected so all 4 of us went over for a week !!! any how.. i have to say i loved perth, it is beautiful clean cosmopolitan fresh and above all manageable as far as cities go. i am not a big city fan, i love to visit them but could not live in one. my brother lived in london for many years and i loved to visit and have fun but as to living there ..NO..not for me.. i think though , you have a fab balance, because you also have fremantle which kinda provides the alternative edge to the city so it is in several parts and not one overwhelming place. obviously only you will know how you feel and perth is my only experience of australian city life, but it was all chosen for the right reasons for me. i dont think it is a case of being bored, there is stuff for all to do , maybe more a case of finding it..
good luck with it all, i cant wait to get back, house sale is the only thing stopping me at mo.. we all loved it..
take care .
anj x :-)|
16 Dec 2009 10:30 PM
|Perth is isolated-look at the map: nothing but bush and desert between here and civilisation. Cost of living is hihger than 'over east', because everything has to be shipped over. Yes, that includes 'local produce' or why else are fruit and veg so expensive???
It depends what you want out of live, if you're into arts and culture and ladida then Perth is probably not the best place for you. |
17 Dec 2009 1:03 AM
|Everyone will have their own opinion so here's mine.
We (myself and my wife and 2 kids) have been here for 5 weeks. We came over last year for a rekkie. I hav enot met a person who does not like it over here. I've met many who have lived on the east coast and say WA is the place to be. My wife flew to Sydney last week on business and it was bumper to bumber busy busy.
I've found Perth extremely family orientated. Weekends are a buzz with people living life to the full. Def a work to live ethic here.
I can't compare cost of living with other states but like anywhere, there cheap and expensive. Somethings more some less than the UK. My wife and I have salaries very comparitive to the UK and actually better.
You may find other posts from me about my unsettled nerves at first but things get better by the day. People are friendly and helpfull. There's loads of development and traffic gets hectic on the freeway/motorway. There's certainly a buzz around. Freo is awesome. Beaches are awesome. Margaret River is awesome. Kalbarri is awesome. Ningaloo Reef, Swan Valley etc. You don't need to leave WA. AND it's that much closer to the UK if you need to pop over and remind yourself why you chose Perth.|
17 Dec 2009 2:47 AM
|Thanks Kempo for the feedback. My hubby and I are going over to Perth for a very quick trip in April and I know I won't be able to get the full feeling of the place in a week but am going to give it a damn good try. We have 2 kids aged 10 and nearly 7 and the main reason for us wanting to move to Perth was purely for them because we don't want them growing up in Scotland. Scotland itself is beautiful but doesn't offer much apart from its scenery (well that's my opinion anyway). House prices are dreadful just now and unemployment is as bad as ever. Things are scheduled to improve so hopefully by 2011 when we plan to move out the house prices will have increased so at least we can get back what we paid for our house. You don't happen to know anyone in I.T. do you as this is the field where my husband would be looking for work. Really appreciate the response. Where abouts are you staying then and do you like it?|
17 Dec 2009 2:52 AM
|Thanks anj for the feedback - really appreciate it. My hubby and I are also going out for a week in April but without the kids as we feel they would be bored looking at houses, schools etc.
What did you manage to achieve in your week then and where were your favourite places? I'm a bit nervous about the trip as I know this trip will be the decider on whether we get the ball rolling or not.
Any other feedback on areas etc would be really helpful.
17 Dec 2009 9:56 AM
|Hi Kendal - I'm in IT and there are jobs. Look at SEEK.COM.AU. We've just about hunted all suburbs North and South of the river. Again everyone will have their own opinions on North or South. For us we chose South and have bought a house in Leeming. Advantages for us were,
Good schools - state and private
Nice area with good facilities all round (we're a sports mad family)
Close to the city which is probably where most IT work is
Traffic not as bad as North
They call it the 20 minute area as everything is less than 20 minutes away (even Freo)
Lots of trees, greenery so it has character
There's no tim elike the present. We've lost a fortune with the current housing market in the UK and exchange rate but we bit the bullet. This place is made for kids.
If you want to research areas and depends how much money you have to spend on property here's my list.
Mullalloo - Pricey
Hillaries - Pricey
Innaloo - Pricey
Winthrop - Pricey
Applecross - Pricey
Ardross - Pricey
Bicton - Pricey
The not so pricey are around $500 - $750
The pricey $750 + and some of these $1mill +
Take a lok at Leeming Primary School for a feel on schools. Smallish state primary school. All these areas will have nice schools. Rossmoyne has the best WA state high school. Willeton and Leeming also have good state high schools.
18 Dec 2009 6:09 AM
|Thank you so much for this information. Will look into the South in a bit more detail as have spent most time studying the North. We are actually staying in Ocean Reef for our week in April but will definitely travel down to see the areas you mentioned. Thanks once again. Kendal|
29 Dec 2009 9:15 PM
sorry for delay, like everyone busy !! merry christmas by the way !
to be honest we managed a hell of alot in our week, we had definate ideas after 2 years of research and the australian way of life making things easy to achieve.
we stayed in a house in padbury as it is close to woodvale which is our chose of high school.. the most important for us as our daughter has started her gcse years.. we visited the school and were more than impressed not only with the facilities but the general attitude toward the children. we enjoy sports but i would not describe us as a sporty family, more out-doorsy.. archery, camping, boarding and will try most stuff ! and we like people, food and music, so the diversity for the kids was great at the school they had not only a football academy but also a music scholarship and lots of interseting subjects for the kids to chose form.
so, we enrolled her there and she didnt want to come back !! it was easy to do and very positive.
we wandered around not only woodvale, which is lovely..however not many houses sray on the market long which speaks volumes..
kingsley in nice too and also in the catchment area, more affordable for us.
we will loose lots on sale of house but woth the move.
i went to meet my new nurse manager and caught up with newly made friends form this site who are lovely and involved us in activities that were on in the area.
cost of living is comparative but the quality of stuff you get is worth it.
we looked at sor when we set out but settled on nor cos of my hsbands work contact , which has now fallen through ! but hey he is a welder by trade byt will do anything and my pay is more than back in uk at a much lower grade so we will make do in the beginning.
we also opened bank accounts, met up with realy agents, sotred out future mortgages.. all very straight forward..
a bit of a ramble i know, but a week can be full if you plan it prior to going.. we still had plenty of time to get lost and stumble across extra-ordinary beauty, drink lots, have fun and go shopping !!!
let me know how you get on, my son is 10 this month and he is a little caitious about the big move, but he fell in love with it and we didnt get to see his school as it will depennd on exactly wher we live, but he was fine with that and alot more settled about it now.
hope this long windedness helps,
anj x |
30 Dec 2009 12:57 AM
|Merry Christmas to you too. So you haven't made the move yet. When do you intend to go? Do you happen to know the catchment boundaries for Woodvale as I have put together a 'Blue Peter' stick together map from Kinross down to Karrinyup and I have been able to work out from most of the school's websites the boundaries. That way when I look at the real estate sites I know if it fits into the catchment for that particular school. I know some areas split depending on what side of a road you live in. For some reason I haven't marked the catchment area for Woodvale yet. You certainly did a lot in your week didn't you! We need to get our skates on and finalise what we will be doing when we go out in April. My little boy is also 10 yrs and again a bit nervous about leaving his friends behind and making new ones. My little girl is a bit more enthusiastic and she is just turning 7 yrs. Taking the kids away from my Mum and Dad is my only doubt just now as these are the only grandchildren and the guilt of doing this is really getting to me. We are going to the Emigrate Roadshow in Glasgow in March and then will go over for our week in April. Would be good to keep in touch as any feedback is a must for us. Kendal|
06 Jan 2010 9:16 AM
happy new year to you all !
nope we have`nt made the leap yet as we need to sell our house first. we have had some interest and hopefully this will increase now the new year has begun. we will most likely have to keep reducing the price but this is taking us further into -ve equity due to the current market and using up the valuable little savings we have, but i still think it is well worth it !
i have scoured all my woodvale emails and contacts for their catchment area and cannot find it i am sure though if you email them they will send you the details.
i am pretty sure you will have a great time in april , plan your time in advance by making pre-arranged appointments and look at what is most important for to find out this trip as you will certainly not do it all..
i wonder if being 10 is a sensitive time ?
we only have a small family that has its traumas as to us moving, but i guess that will always be.. remember why you are doing this and i am sure it will help !! i am hoping i am talking sense as i dont know myself yet ! :-o listening to peeps on hear has really helped over the past 11/2 years.. there are wise words spoken out of consideration, commonality and care..
go for it and let me know how you get on.. pm if you like..
anj & co x :-)|
06 Jan 2010 11:45 AM
We have been in Perth for just over a year and for us as a family can honestly say it is the best move we have ever made. We have a fantastic life over here and don't have any regrets what so ever. We have a far better social life as we have made so many great friends and the kids say that they never ever want to go back to live in the UK. Many things are way more expensive than in the UK but my hubby is earning a far better wage so it's swings and rondabouts I suppose. We have a much bigger house here than we could ever of afforded in the Uk with a pool etc etc.We have just had family over for a month and they can't believe what such a great life we have here.
It's not for everyone but it certainly is for us
07 Jan 2010 2:12 AM
|Hi We live in woodvale - not too sure what the catchment is for the two primary schools that there but the high school is half of Kingsley, all of woodvale and part of edgewater. if you look on the schools website there should be a map with the catchment for the senior schools. You need to be living in the catchment area to get a place at the high school and i think it is same for the primary.
08 Jan 2010 5:10 AM
|Hi Lisa, thanks for your reply. Is absolutely everything more expensive than the UK? There must be some things that are cheaper?
Whereabouts are you staying in Perth and are your kids enjoying school. What do you think of the schooling compared to the UK?
08 Jan 2010 5:16 AM
|Good luck with selling the house anj. Hope you get a decent price for it. We are hoping by next year that things have picked up a little. When we are out in April I will need to find out what kind of work is available on a term-time basis as there will be no-one to look after the kids during school hols.
Have you been watching the new series of 'Wanted Down Under'? The couple the other day visited Perth and they stayed in Baldivis I think. They found most things more expensive there compared to the UK but they still decided to make the move. Good on them.
How did you go about making the pre-arranged appointments. Did you just search around the internet and contact people by e-mail? Did you make arrangements with real estate people in advance also and do you have to make appointments with loads so you can see both North and South locations?
Look forward to hearing from you.
08 Jan 2010 7:33 AM
yeah my fingers crossed for sale of house and after reading some of the new and like-minded comments on here are making me more desperate than ever !! i have emailled woodvale for info on their boundaries so that i am looking at the right part of kingsley and will pass it onto you as soon as i get it.. i have been told that creaney ps is very good and is a feeder school to woodvale so am assuming the north of kingsley is within the catchment but outside of that not too sure.
as to appointments, i had been in touch with my employer for some time now and thought it would be nice to meet in person, like most things nowadays just email and ask, i did this with woodvale shs too. as to banks they were great just went in to commonwealth bank in perth and asked all we needed was our passports as we didnt have them on us went in next morning and bingo two accounts open and looked at what mortgage we can get and which one would best suit us.. all done within about 45mins !! also just popped into realty office whilst nosing about in lakeside shopping centre, joondalup and got loads of advice and contact names for when we really need them. didnt get to go further than freo mind so when we get out there will really explore that part did research the rossmoyne catchment area initially and have a emailling contact down in secret harbour, who i really need to touch base with ..
hubbie will have to wait for work as like yourself we have no-one for the kids and until i know which school my youngest will attend i cannot find out info on after school clubs etc.. am kinda hoping to be able to negotiate term time working if i get back onto community, if not i may see if permanent nights initially would work out better ! god only knows, these are the things that can most likely only be sorted when we`re out there and running !!
nope havent seen new series of down under, if its on between 8-6 am at work :-( share the info if anything handy pops up tho ..
09 Jan 2010 6:55 AM
The Wanted Down Under programmes are on every morning at 10am on BBC1. Next Wednesday is Perth again I think. The only negative thing that is coming out of every programme is the cost of living. In the programme the couple are given cost of living comparisons from Oz and the UK and the difference is quite high. So unless the wages are slightly higher we will be worse off living there! I'm sure there must be some things cheaper out there. Did you read the recent rekkie trip by clarepo on 7th Jan? It was really positive and makes me want to be there now. Any idea what kind of jobs are available on a term-time basis as this is what I'll be needing.
Speak to you soon. Have a good weekend. Lets hope the snow goes away soon.
09 Jan 2010 9:57 AM
|Part time work isn't good here and I can honestly say in that in almost 5 years, other than jobs in schools, I haven't seen 1 term time only job advertised. If you are in the admin game at the moment there is very little part time work around and I have been searching for about 12 months. Whilst I am sure it isn't what you want to hear, if I was due to come now with the knowledge I have now, I wouldn't come. Financially it would be very very hard. But that is easy enough for me to say as I am here.|
10 Jan 2010 4:15 AM
|I work in admin but in a school. I don't work with children but our office deals with things like placing requests, enrolment into P1 and P7 transition into Secondary. We support the primaries that feed into our secondary and all the girls I work with are term-time. I could also work in a school office as that doesn't involve working in the classroom. K|
10 Jan 2010 10:03 AM
|I work in a school office on a casual basis. It happens to be the school my kids go to so I got my face seen on a voluntary basis and when relief work came up I was the first person they thought of. In the last 12 months there have only been 2 school jobs advertised, both of which I interviewed for but didn't get. The application process is awful and you have to address selection criteria, my last application was 6 pages!!! There have been a few jobs at private schools but they don't take the same holidays so child care would have been an issue for those ones.
The only place to look for school vacancies is here: http://search.jobs.wa.gov.au/page.php?pageID=215
10 Jan 2010 11:28 AM
|Maureen was working as a Teachers Aid at the kids school, but has now been re-trenched. She was employed on a term to term basis as a casual but at the end of the last term, they told her and two others, that due to decreased funding in the Catholic system, they couldn't keep them on. Jobs at schools tend to go to parents of kids in the school. You need to volunteer as much as possible, and make sure the head knows who you are. Then you will probably need to go to Tafe (college) to get a Cert111. That's a twelve week course. A UK teaching assistant qualification (which Maureen has), doesn't help much. There is no legal requirement to have a Cert111 in order to be a TA, but, if someone who has a Cert111 is interviewed for a post, they are almost certain to get the job over someone who doesn't have a Cert111|
10 Jan 2010 11:48 AM
firstly i don't write on here very often, but a nerve has been struck would someone please define art and culture and then explain why they cant find any in perth Or WA.|
10 Jan 2010 12:16 PM
|Why bother with arts and culture when one can entertain oneself with hooning, binge drinking, fighting and cop bashing. |
10 Jan 2010 11:15 PM
|So what do other people do who don't work in schools and don't have term-time jobs? If they don't have family over there to look after the kids for 8 weeks during their holidays, do they just put them into kids clubs for the entire time?
This is the reason I got a term-time job here in Scotland as I don't have family nearby to look after my kids during school hols. This is so depressing! They are crying out for support people for schools in this country.
I am actually Australian by birth so getting into Oz isn't a problem for me so we will be praying that there are plenty of well paid jobs in IT for my husband. We will find out in April when we visit.
Thanks for all your help.
10 Jan 2010 11:54 PM
|That is exactly what people have to do. Employers aren't as family friendly here as the UK in my opinion.|
11 Jan 2010 12:28 PM
No everything is not as expensive as the UK. When our family came over to visit they couldn't believe how much cheaper the fresh meats were compared to what they were paying in the UK. We bought a brand new car when we 1st came over and this was a lot cheaper than it would have cost us in the UK for the same model. Cars seem to hold their value a lot more here so 2nd hand cars are very expensive. There are probably many other things that are cheaper but I suppose we have stopped comparing things to UK prices as we are earning aussie dollars now.
We own a house in Butler but have just sold as we have bought a plot of land in Jindalee.So it's back to renting for the next 12 - 18 months whilst our new one is being built.
My kids love school. It seems a lot more laid back than in the Uk. My eldest has had to repeat some of the work that she had previously done in the UK. She was in yr 3 in the UK and had to go into year 1 when we arrived as it was nearing the end of the school year so obviously she seemed to be ahead of many in her class but over time it probably evens itself out. My youngest was in reception but had to go into kindy here which was a bit different as he was used to going full time then had to go down to 2 days a week. Luckily it was only for the last 4 weeks of the school year. He is only just doing things now that he was doing in the UK but thats the way things are here so we haven't got a problem with it at all. They would probably have problems is we ever went back to the UK but hopefully that isn't an option for us as we are here for the long term.
Hope this helps
13 Jan 2010 1:30 AM
|Thanks for this. The information is really useful.
13 Jan 2010 1:34 AM
|Thanks Lisa for the reply. Good to hear some positive stuff about cost of living. With the new series of Wanted Down Under starting here, every couple on the programme have been shocked at the increased cost of living in Oz. Good also to hear that your eldest is enjoying school. Its such a worry!
Speak to you soon.
25 Jan 2010 1:26 PM
|ok so here is my comments
We've been here 2.1/2 years, really love the place, but its hard.
Money is much tighter here than it ever was in the UK, maybe its because we came just as the market started to tip - Kieran has struggled for work through most of the past 18 months,then I lost my job just before Christmas, which has left us in a difficult position financially.
There are ways to eat more cheaply, just by shopping at the fruit markets can save a fortune.
For all that, I love it here, cant imagine living back in the UK. We have little money left after the bills are paid for fancy days out, but this holiday I have been to the beach at least 3 times a week with the kids, BBQ's on the public BBQ's in the numerous parks. Today I am off to a friends for coffee and kids will play in the pool!
11 Feb 2010 2:25 PM
|PERTH IS *BLOODY* EXPENSIVE ... but I wouldn't be anywhere else!
We have been here for nearly 4 years and have seen our grocery shopping increase by 25%, buying the same things... you can't buy shampoo, toiletries, bread, sausages ... or anything for a pound... there's no Asda or Tesco prices here ...
Eating out/going out is expensive ...
Clothes and shoes are ASTRONOMICAL
BUT you have the outdoor life, the weather, everyone is upbeat, you have the family life that you just can't get in the UK. There's no way I would go back to the UK ... even if we have to budget for everything!!|
08 Apr 2010 8:15 AM
|I dont write on here very often, in the future we do hope to move to perth, but at the moment it's not gonna happen. We first went to perth in in jan 2005, everything seemed really cheap, a great way of life etc etc exchange rate was $2.5 to the |
08 Apr 2010 4:01 PM
|Financially, we are considerably better off in Perth than we were in England, this is partly to do with luck as to when we arrived and the shortage of workers - (and we arrived 2 years too late to make the most of it) and since with Australia's position in the current global environment.
In hindsight, purely financially it was a very shrewd move, though at the time it didnt feel like it at all, quite the opposite.
And who is to say it still isnt a shrewd move? It seems that Australia is on the way up and and just about all other westernised countries are either on the way down or floundering economy wise, either that or I have been brainwashed by the positive Aussie press.
In general, stuff is a lot more expensive than just about anywhere else in the world except for fuel. But getting paid in Aussie dollars helps, as does the fact that there is a ton of stuff to do for free and a climate that makes you want to do it. This means that you dont have to spend nearly as much money to be entertained. Most of our expenditure in the motherland was on holidays away or going out.
If your hobby is shopping then you might want to think about going elsewhere because generally the choice of goods is minimal, quality poor and the cost is ridiculous.
08 Apr 2010 4:35 PM
|hi, havnt been on here much lately at all but just reading through the post and thought i would have my say. We visited perth initially for a holiday with the intention of applying for our visas, then visited again to validate our visas. We could not sell our house in England so have rented this out as it got to a case of its now or never, my eldest son would have been starting high school in September and wanted to make the move before then. We both absolutely loved Perth and up until 3 weeks before making the move were coming. Then my other half decided we should maybe try Melbourne as he felt, although we had never been, that Melbourne may offer more for the kids as they became teenagers and young adults. We arrived here in December and it is nice here, theres plenty to do, kids enjoying it, climates nice as you get a good variation. However we too found it hard over here also, Lee, who is a joiner, couldnt get work for the first 10 weeks, we couldnt get a rental and i find that here it is expensive, especially for food. We were better of financially in England without a doubt. But, what i want to say is that although its nice here, it is not Perth and that is where my heart is so we are now saving and planning to get over to Perth within the next few months. I wont ever regret having come to Melbourne first as if we had come straight to Perth i would have always been thinking, is the other side better for us. It all depends on each indivdual person, Melbournes great but, this is going to sound strange, but i dont feel like being here is a big enough life style change to sacrifice the people i have left at home for. Its too big here and busy and people i speak to say whooo Perth, sleepy hollow or that you go there to retire but i like the idea of this, but thats me. Plus, if the kids want to move when they get older if there bored, so what, look at me ive moved and never thought i would so will cross that bridge when i get to it.Plus the flight here seems a hell of a lot longer than it does to Perth, those few hours make a difference.
So, fingers crossed should be over soon.