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Occupations in Demand       started by TheHalls on 18 Jan 2010   (22484)
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From TheHalls

18 Jan 2010 11:34 PM
(107245)
Hi everyone Just looking for some advice on my husband's trade demand. He is a Plumber/Gas Fitter and has been for 10 years. When we first began our application for skilled migration 3 years ago, we were with an agent and he advised my husband to apply for the TRA on the basis of being a General Plumber and to leave the Gas Fitter out of it as it would be simpler. We did this and he passed the TRA no bother. For various reasons we put the application on hold and are only now picking it back up again. I have been on Australia's Immigration homepage to check out the current situation and I see that although General Plumber is still on the MODL list, that Gas Fitters are on a new critical list for priority processing. We have been told that his TRA will always be valid but I am wondering if we should get him recognised for being a Gas Fitter. I am unsure of the current process of doing this as we did it the old way so was wondering if anyone could offer their advice/knowledge on what would be best?
From cs74

To TheHalls

19 Jan 2010 1:08 AM
(107246)
How long will it take for him to go through the new process of recognition as a gas fitter and the visa application rather than to just go through the visa with what you have, are you in a rush to go ASAP. Although I believe he may have to get his qualifications recognised in Australia anyway regardless of what is on his TRA. ( I think TAFE may do this ). Im sure someone will clarify or correct me anyway.
From TheHalls

To cs74

19 Jan 2010 1:26 AM
(107248)
I am not sure how long it takes to be recognised with Vetassess as we did it all through TRA. I suppose it will probably be six and half a dozen time wise whether we go through the process with his TRA as Plumber or whether we start from scratch with the priority Gas Fitter recognition. when hey say Gas Fitters will be prioritised, how much time will be saved off a normal application, I suppose no-one can really say...
From callum1965

To TheHalls

19 Jan 2010 2:23 AM
(107250)
Like what has been said just go with the tra.If it does end up quicker starting over you will likely end up ploding time after,as when to sell up and move or activate the visa anyway.You have waited a while since why are you after pushing it through so fast now,I bet it has something to do whith that Wanted down under.All the migration sites have been swamped with new users since.Think about it and go with the tra and plan what to do after.
From andreandaz

To TheHalls

19 Jan 2010 2:26 AM
(107251)
Hi, Assessments with vetassess are available in the uk at approx 3/4 monthly intervals, however, I do know the Feb assessments have been cancelled and are now being held in June. I think in reality if you were to go down the gas fitter route you should get your visa quicker providing gas fitter stays on the csl. As it stands at the moment as far as I am aware anyone lodging an off-shore non-csl occupation are looking at not being finalised prior to the end of 2012. Hope this helps Andrea
From cs74

To andreandaz

19 Jan 2010 2:32 AM
(107252)
That is some time to wait, i didnt know it was now taking so long. blimey, does make some think now to start over with the vetassess and go csl. do you know why it takes so long? work load or not needing the skills so fast at the moment.
From TheHalls

To andreandaz

19 Jan 2010 2:41 AM
(107253)
Thanks Andrea. I am going to speak it over with my husband tonight and depending on his thoughts contact Vetassess. Callum, we do not watch the tv programme so not sure why you think that. Our application was put on hold because after we passed the TRA we were planning our wedding and we couldn't afford to do both. I then fell pregnant and as it costs a lot of money to add a baby on to the application we decided to wait again. Baby is now ten months and financially we are on our feet again and that is why we have started our application back up. I was an active member on this site couple of years ago but rejoined just there because i had a new e-mail address and couldn't remember any of my log on details. This is not somehing we have decided to do just because of a tv prgramme but rathr a dream we have had for many years.
From TheHalls

To TheHalls

19 Jan 2010 2:51 AM
(107254)
Have checked the australian immigration homepage again and it looks like Gas Fitters have to be recognised through TRA, not Vetassess. If I have understood this wrong could someone correct me
From cs74

To TheHalls

19 Jan 2010 3:06 AM
(107255)
I have just checked myself.It does state TRA,Also there is licencing to consider.
From andreandaz

To TheHalls

19 Jan 2010 3:57 AM
(107256)
I think you could well be right, I know general plumbers are assessed by vetasess, have you looked on the vetassess website? Andrea
From TheHalls

To andreandaz

19 Jan 2010 7:10 PM
(107258)
Yeah, double checked with Vetassess and TRA and Gas Fitters are assessed by TRA, thank goodness. Having spoken to a few people re visa timescales for General Plumbers I think we are going to start from scratch and get him re-assessed as a Gas Fitter. If I could get hold of the Agent who told us to just get him assessed as a plumber I may well be on a murder charge!
From rockinghorse

To TheHalls

19 Jan 2010 7:19 PM
(107259)
Why don't you speak to an immigration adviser. They will advise the best route!
From andreandaz

To TheHalls

19 Jan 2010 7:44 PM
(107260)
To be fair to the agent they had no way of knowing that plumbers were going to be removed from the CSL along with many other trades. As it stands at the moment he is more likely to get processed as a gas fitter much sooner than he would as a plumber, however, that's only likely to remain that way as long as gas fitter's remain on the csl. Andrea
From jimboman

To TheHalls

19 Jan 2010 8:09 PM
(107263)
The moral of the story, is to send off your main application as soon as you are skill assessed. Mine went off 36 hours after my TRA letter landed on the doormat. Migration rules are in a constant state of flux due to supply and demand. You can qualify one day, then not qualify the next. It was only in 2006 that they changed the rules so that if you qualified on the day they received the application, then you would be processed. Prior to that, you had to qualify right up until the day of the visa grant so if they had your application and the rules changed, then your application would be binned. Nearly every Pom I know over here now, wouldn't have a cat in hells chance of getting in today. Strike while the iron is hot.
From andreandaz

To jimboman

19 Jan 2010 10:09 PM
(107266)
It is getting much harder now for applicants with more changes expected very soon. We have had our fair share of ups and downs during the last three years and to be perfectly honest I wouldn't like to be just starting out. Andrea
From callum1965

To jimboman

19 Jan 2010 10:31 PM
(107267)
'Nearly every Pom I know over here now, wouldn't have a cat in hells chance of getting in today. ' Do they mainly have the same skills ? I thought it were mainly building trade that has been hit. still alot of other trades and engineers coming in as the stills list has not changed for them.
From callum1965

To andreandaz

19 Jan 2010 10:35 PM
(107268)
Just looked at your timeline for visa. well done on sticking it out and hope you make it work,sure you will as alot would have given up on what you went through.
From jimboman

To callum1965

19 Jan 2010 10:49 PM
(107271)
Building trades have been worst affected. Most of the POMS I know here are from those trades. The fact is, that they are here 'living the life' having exploited a small window of opportunity. I don't know of one that regrets their decision and all of them would say that it is the best thing that they ever did.
From andreandaz

To callum1965

19 Jan 2010 10:56 PM
(107272)
Thanks, there have been many times when we've felt like giving up and have kept going and eventually it paid off we now have our visa. Have another mountain to climb now and that's selling our house!
From andreandaz

To jimboman

19 Jan 2010 10:58 PM
(107273)
I just hope that after all we've been through it is as we expected it to be and more. We know it's not going to be easy but if you want things in life you've got to work at it and that's what we intend to do.
From callum1965

To jimboman

19 Jan 2010 10:58 PM
(107274)
good on them for doing so. I hope more builders come over, we really need more homes so prices to ease.
From andreandaz

To callum1965

19 Jan 2010 10:59 PM
(107275)
well there's one brickie here can't wait to get over!
From callum1965

To andreandaz

19 Jan 2010 11:00 PM
(107276)
You have time to sell. it was usualy around Feb or spring sales started to pic up and with low rates and what to believe has now uk market stable you should be ok.
From andreandaz

To callum1965

20 Jan 2010 12:17 AM
(107278)
thanks
From TheHalls

To rockinghorse

20 Jan 2010 1:45 AM
(107279)
Thanks rockinghorse, I have e-mailed a couple there. After speaking to my husband there we are definitely going to strat afresh with TRA and Gas Fitter. We were talking about the state sponsorship route as well but we have never looked at that in detail so that was one of the questions I have asked the agents about. Thanks for everyone's input, we appreciate you taking the time to reply x