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Parents of University Aged Students coming to Oz       started by KathrynG on 06 Apr 2010   (22700)
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From KathrynG

06 Apr 2010 9:48 AM
(107994)
Hi Just thought I would add a note for everyone with kids aged 18 upwards. We moved here when our lad was 16, he is now 19 and just started University. We have found that whilst he can have a commonwealth supported place (because we are permanent residents on a 136 visa) he cannot obtain a grant because we are not citizens. So we have had to pay his fees in full, his rent and currently he is looking for a job so we have to support him too as he cannot get youth allowance for living away from home either. Unless one of you is already an Australian Citizen, you have to wait four years to apply to become one. To apply for a university place in the UK once you have lived here for 12 months means you are classed as an overseas student and thus have to pay International fees.
From kayandandy

To KathrynG

06 Apr 2010 9:06 PM
(107998)
Just to clarify this though - all Australian students pay for their fees although they can defer them. Not all students here are entitled to Youth Allowance as it is income dependent. I still have a HECs debt from when I studied many mooons ago.
From KathrynG

To kayandandy

07 Apr 2010 6:27 PM
(108009)
Yes that is correct but familys coming from aboard who are not citizens will not get the hecs fund until they are citizens which is now four years from arrival. So if you have a 18 year old who wants go to univ then be prepared to have to pay their univ fees or wait until they are a Australia citizen.
From kayandandy

To KathrynG

07 Apr 2010 7:50 PM
(108010)
I am sure you can get HECS as a resident ... I did!
From KathrynG

To kayandandy

07 Apr 2010 10:11 PM
(108012)
We did try but where told we had to be citizens. At least he won't come out with a debt in three years. He is doing a BA in performing arts I told him to pay us back when he gets to Hollywood.
From kayandandy

To KathrynG

07 Apr 2010 11:16 PM
(108013)
Man that is tough. They must have tightened up. Funny though that you can get all sorts of bloody centrelink payments if you are a resident and be entitled to a state education but must cough up for uni. Silly bloody aussies! Where is he studying? I bet he is glad about the debt! I still have one!!!!!
From KathrynG

To kayandandy

12 Apr 2010 7:08 AM
(108046)
Hi, sorry took so long to reply, been away. Yes they tightened up the laws on Hecs funds in 2007. Our lad is living away from home independent but also because the youth allowance is means tested he cannot get that. He is struggling to get a job as student hours and employers don't mix too well. So Centrelink think that because my hubby (I have been unable to find work too) earns above the threshold for youth allowance we we can afford to support a student and all his fees, his rent and his living expenses along with his books and whatever else on one wage. With the laws in the UK also stating as a British citizen he cannot study there for anything less than an International fee paying place, we are damn either way. By putting this entry on Aussiemove I wanted more parents with children coming up for university age to be aware that they would need to fund their children's fees if they are not citizens of Australia and once they have lived here for a few months will not be able to obtain a UK fee paying place either.
From kayandandy

To KathrynG

12 Apr 2010 10:41 AM
(108051)
Golly that is so tough. I didnt realise that. Good point to put it up here. I think the very fact that there is a charge for education is so flipping narrow minded! I chuckle every time someone tells me that state primary education is free here. Free to me is pay nothing ... my hand goes in my pocket for all sorts of things. The booklist is my main peeve. Whilst it irritates me that they say free but you have to pay for this and that, what irritated me is that on that booklist was white board markers for the TEACHER! Boy I saw red! (I am a teacher and my school either provides or a I buy my own and claim on tax!) However that is really the pits about your son. Has he thought of somewhere like MacDonalds for a job. Whilst the status is low(!!!!!!) they often find it hard to staff the overnight shifts and a couple of those a week should keep the wolves from the door! Kay
From KathrynG

To kayandandy

12 Apr 2010 11:25 AM
(108052)
I know what you mean about the cost of education. We are from the UK and education from primary to secondary is free, we only paid for trips occasionally, even swimming lessons were a voluntary contribution. The booklist is a nightmare I agree. When we moved here I had one in year 12 and one in year 9 whilst Harry was in primary, I bought everything I was told to on the list and it cost $900 for the two eldest, half of the books they never used which really got to me. I home educate our youngest, he is in year 6 and was struggling to keep up. He was in a really good school but they do not seem to be able to address child who struggle, in the UK he got loads of support. Adam used to work for Officeworks when he was in year 12 and during his gap year, so he hoped to get a transfer but they are not interested. The fact he is trained and received awards for customer service appear not to help. He is applying everywhere and yes he has even applied to MacDonald's. He is used to having cash in his pocket so he is finding it really hard to ask for money for food and petrol. He has taken to walking everywhere to cut down on asking us for cash. His girlfriend is in the room next door to him in the campus house and she is a brilliant cook, so they are pooling food and she is making meals from next to nothing. She is an Australian and gets all benefits. She has been brilliant at helping him out.