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Expensive!!!       started by Rob+Tina on 05 May 2010   (22783)
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From Rob+Tina

05 May 2010 2:43 AM
(108297)
Hi Aussiemovers!...is it me or has Perth become very expensive??? we have just come back from our regular 3 year visit to stay with family and could not believe how expensive everything has become over there!!! I know the exchange rate is poor at the moment...but putting that aside...its all become very expensive for even the smallest of items! and to make things worse there are no choices!!! We will have to bring more spending money on our next visit and will have to bring more items out with us ie: toiletries etc... Tina & Rob x
From kildrummy

To Rob+Tina

05 May 2010 9:10 AM
(108300)
No competition so you end up paying five times as much for the same item made in the same factory in china. As for the supermarkets they are like 1970s corner shops. Hey stuff goes out of season!. I had never even heard of such a concept until I came to Perth. But seriously if you are trying to get by on the average salary it must be a real struggle and it has certainly got worse in the two years we have been here. That said its a city with no shortage of opportunities and I see plenty of regular folks making stacks of cash. Oh and of course the sun shines all the time, which us golfers like very much.
From Marshy

To Rob+Tina

05 May 2010 9:44 AM
(108301)
Yes it has. I have been here 5 years and I would not consider emigrating now. For some it will be financial suicide.
From Kieren

To Marshy

05 May 2010 12:37 PM
(108302)
I second what Marshy says. We've been in Perth just over 4 years now, and I wouldn't recommend migrating here right now. I have never been so financially constrained in over 22 years of (almost continuous) work. I seriously don't believe the opportunities are as great as some people make them out to be, unless you are a jack-of-all-trades. It appears to me that laborers seem to benefit most here in WA (as opposed to office workers), and those who are lucky enough to take advantage of the ABN tax allowances system, which doesn't apply to everyone. Cost of living is extortionate, as has been mentioned there is just no competition. 'kildrummy' has summed it up well.....but sunshine isn't everything. And while I too love to have the odd game of golf, I just never recently seem to get the opportunity to do so while tying to keep financially in the black by having to work much longer hours. KIEREN
From Gill+Mark+Girls

To Kieren

05 May 2010 1:14 PM
(108303)
I totally agree with the comments about the cost of living here. We've been living here since Oct 2008 and have seen the steady increases. The cost of basic grocery shopping is crazy. A friend of mine loans me UK magazines and it's amazing to see how cheaply you can buy food or cleaning products in Tesco or Asda compared to here. While these costs can't be the basis of making a decision to move here, it should definitely be considered. This is a very expensive part of the world to live in. I understand from talking to people that there are a lot more consumer choices elsewhere in Australia and WA's lack of this ensures prices are kept high. The current rate of exchange from GBP to AUD surely would put people off migrating at the moment too. Plus the continuous hikes in interest rates here are not helping people cope financially.
From simonc

To Kieren

05 May 2010 5:05 PM
(108305)
On the other side of the coin, with the crazy prices people are forced to pay, there is always the option to migrate and exploit the situation by setting up a retail business that reaps the rewards, like the bloke in Joondalup shopping centre and the clothes imported from UK shops with the labels cut out. Financially, it is not a bad time to 'reverse' emigrate if you are thinking about it. But who knows.
From Rob+Tina

To Marshy

05 May 2010 7:32 PM
(108307)
yes I am afraid that even the thought of the sunshine in Perth...would not sway me into moving to Perth permanently! a holiday to Perth every 3 years suits us just fine! think we shall be purchasing a cheap little place in Europe to go to in our winter time!! lol...
From Marshy

To Rob+Tina

05 May 2010 7:33 PM
(108308)
Don't get me wrong I love living here and it is home but knowing what I know now I would not come purely because of the cost of living and nothing else. I have absolutely NO intention of returning to UK, my life would be totally crap there.
From Mindblower

To Marshy

05 May 2010 10:55 PM
(108315)
Lol Marshy A supermarket duopoly, plus the aussies just lie back and take being ripped off for granted. Why are bananas always poor in supermarkets ? never like advertized on telly. You need money in this state ,dont come if you anit got enough.
From Rob+Tina

To Marshy

06 May 2010 12:29 AM
(108316)
Glad you feel that way...but for me my family are more important here than wanting to live in the sun! I realised that when we got stuck over in Perth for another 10 days because of the Ash Cloud!! its too far for me to live away from my children! I will have to make do with having lots of holidays in Europe!! lol....and to be honest our lives in the UK are really not that bad!
From Marshy

To Rob+Tina

06 May 2010 12:32 AM
(108317)
Glad to hear it. I obviously am with my husband and kids in Australia so I have my family with me which I guess makes it easier to settle. I don't actually think I mentioned sun being more important than family but hey ho.
From Rob+Tina

To Marshy

06 May 2010 2:55 AM
(108318)
of course you didn't sorry it wasn't meant to sound like that...its just that the first thing ppl say when they emigrate is about how wonderful the weather is! and that is why they have moved from the UK....yes your lucky you have a complete unit...I would be leaving my two older children behind. x
From donaa2

To Rob+Tina

06 May 2010 3:06 AM
(108319)
Does the increased cost of living cover Australia in general or Is Perth particularly affected. We are moving to Melbourne.
From jimboman

To Rob+Tina

06 May 2010 7:03 AM
(108320)
Electrical goods etc. are about the same price as in the UK at current exchange rates. Fuel is half the price but you use twice as much. The main big expense is the food shop. Certain foods go out of season, because we don't have Europe on our doorstep for cheap imports. We manage OK, because we had 'training' living in North Devon where wages are very low so you learned to 'cut your cloth'. We do lots of free stuff with the kids. We take them down the beach to walk the dog three or four times a week and go for barbies in national parks. If anything goes wrong around the house, I fix it myself. Our social life is barbies at other peoples houses (or our own). Pubs charge $9.00 for a pint of beer so we don't bother with them unless it is a special occasion. I take sarnies to work instead of spending $10 a day on a hotdog and a can of Mutha (which is what one of my 'cash strapped' workmates does). All in all, our standard of living is miles better than in the UK but I second the thought that to come here for short term financial reasons would be foolish. In the long term you may well be better off though, because it looks like the UK is heading down the 'dunny' economically whilst things here look pretty rosy for the future.
From debs1966

To jimboman

06 May 2010 8:16 AM
(108321)
Hi Guys I am very worried about this as we are embark on the move over which we should have done a few years ago but hindsight is a wonderful thing. Because things are so expensive is it worth shipping pretty much everything? Debbie
From morleylamb

To donaa2

06 May 2010 8:49 AM
(108324)
Perth is a Rip Off ,and they dont waste time in blaming the isolation. I could go on for ever about the differences but Melbourne is fantastic and a big city witch means more competition and much cheaper prices
From babs_andy

To donaa2

06 May 2010 9:39 AM
(108325)
Hi Donaa2, Melbourne is far cheaper than Perth as we have a far greater population which therefore means more competition and choice. I haven't really noticed grocery prices going up substantially. Maybe because we attempt to grow some of our own vegies and shop at the markets - of which there are 100s in Melbourne. House prices are the only noticeable pain here in Melbourne. Prices went up 27% last year. You can still get relatively cheap housing if you don't dream of beachside living. Usually it is the outer growth suburbs that are pretty affordable compared to the established areas. Good luck! Babs
From Rob+Tina

To jimboman

06 May 2010 4:37 PM
(108328)
Yes things have changed quite a lot in Perth since I was there 3 years ago, but its still lovely to feel the open spaces and Kings Park is one of our favourites! A couple of other expensive things you forgot Jim...Doctors and Dentists...I cannot believe how much they charge over in Perth! my sisters daughter will need a brace and they are looking at paying between $5,000 to $6,000 dollars! why are children free over there! and my sister has four children!!! lol..hopefully not all needing treatment! You also have to pay for school books in Perth...again my sister has had to shed out lots of money for School books etc... But as you say Jim you have to adapt and make changes when it comes to spending and saving over in Perth!
From cs74

To Rob+Tina

06 May 2010 6:19 PM
(108329)
$5 - $6 K. Thats alot, I thought insurance would have covered that. Are extras like braces not covered or would they come under a different premium ? thanks.
From kayandandy

To Rob+Tina

06 May 2010 8:09 PM
(108331)
I dont mind paying fo rth ebooks ... it is when they stick whiteboard markers on the list that I object! Or the best one was when we were asked to pay for a dance teacher who would deliver a part of the curriculum. HELLO ... I send my child to a free state school, not to pay for the curriculum. Free here, doesnt quite mean it!
From jimboman

To cs74

06 May 2010 8:55 PM
(108332)
Health insurance is a rip off. It is run for a profit, so I would suggest putting premiums into a jar, and paying for things as they come up. The state system (medicare) will do your everyday stuff like broken bones and childhood jabs for free. We have been here for three years and so far have got by using just medicare. You can get policies that cover all Dental, but they are limited in payout. You won't get $4000 braces for your kids by paying 50c a week in premiums. You will just get a contribution towards the cost. Everyone I work with uses Medicare and do not have private insurance. If you need major Dental or optical work, go to (as suggested in an earlier post) Thailand or Malaysia.
From Trudie

To debs1966

07 May 2010 12:12 AM
(108333)
shipping everything was the best move we made!!
From moirclan

To Rob+Tina

07 May 2010 1:17 AM
(108334)
my kids had braces about five years ago one was about five thousand the other about six ive been in HBF for about 20 years i got 1850 towards each child for braces ,and paid the rest off on a payment plan over 15 months
From Rob+Tina

To moirclan

07 May 2010 5:15 AM
(108336)
there must be a lot of children with bad teeth because a parent cannot afford to pay dentist fees!!!
From Marshy

To Rob+Tina

07 May 2010 9:16 AM
(108338)
normal dental issues are dealt with by the school dentist, well they are at my school anyway. We don't have to pay for that.
From moirclan

To Marshy

07 May 2010 9:56 AM
(108340)
mine were registered with the school dentist they took care of minor extractions , fillings ,polish and clean etc the head dentist comes in every so often and checks the children and hes the one that gives you a referal to an orthadontist if you need one , the school system takes care of the kids until the end of grade ten , there is also the dental hospitalyou can go there for treatment for orthadontal if your on a low income , i have a client who recently had her childrens braces put on there , i think it cost her about 500 dollars , a huge saving , but i think there was a fair wait until she got in . dentists scare me they are so expensive and peridontists are even worse i had a friend who had to go to one she was there for a couple of hours and the bill was $1100 dollars
From Andy+DAwn

To cs74

07 May 2010 7:24 PM
(108345)
Hi, insurance is expensive but you can also buy ambulance cover only. This covers the cost of call out as this could be as much as $5000.00. You would have to pay this yourself, not covered by medicare!! Check on internet for quotes like we did before emigrating. We found this useful. Try www.iselect.com.au this gives lots of comparisons so you know what you might pay. Hope this helps. Dawn
From cs74

To Andy+DAwn

09 May 2010 4:20 AM
(108361)
thanks for info. $5 K for ambulance ....... wow, cheaper for a first class ticket from UK to Perth.