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Truck driving in the mines       started by vpopplewell on 26 Jun 2010   (22916)
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From vpopplewell

26 Jun 2010 10:05 PM
(108750)
Hi, Does anyone know of any companies that have vacancies for truck drivers ? Vanessa and Mal
From tisme

To vpopplewell

26 Jun 2010 10:56 PM
(108751)
Unless you have previous experience of driving on a mine you have no chance at the moment. My daughter drives at Whaleback in Newman.
From Kris+Rob

To vpopplewell

27 Jun 2010 8:53 PM
(108756)
Your normal truck licence won't be enough, you have to do a course to drive the big haul trucks and then get lucky. Without previous haultruck experience it'll be very difficult to get a job.
From tisme

To Kris+Rob

27 Jun 2010 9:30 PM
(108757)
A normal HR license is more than enough, a synchromesh license is all that is needed.
From vpopplewell

To Kris+Rob

27 Jun 2010 9:49 PM
(108758)
Hi, He has his HR license Vanessa
From jimboman

To vpopplewell

27 Jun 2010 10:25 PM
(108760)
I work with 5 truckies (all Aussies) who would love to get on the mines and earn the big bucks. All of them do a daily run and return run from Australind to Henderson. One got lucky about three weeks ago and is now driving a side tipper in Kalgoorlie for $35 an hour (which is not $100k a year and he has had to re-locate at his own expense). There are more truckies in WA than there is work.
From Kris+Rob

To vpopplewell

28 Jun 2010 7:02 PM
(108765)
My post comes across wrong. You are correct with regards to the HR licence, however, I was led to believe that you have to do a course to drive haul trucks. Surely, one couldn't just rock up and be let loose in one of these monsters? jimbo: There is plenty of work for truckies.
From tisme

To Kris+Rob

28 Jun 2010 7:20 PM
(108766)
I put my daughter through the training to drive the haul packs, 4 lessons @ 2 hours each, then her test and she got her license, it isn't a full HR license that is needed but just a part of it. It doesn't allow them to drive on the open road, just on a mine. They undergo 2 weeks of training on the job then they are on their own. The trucks are fully automatic.
From Kieren

To vpopplewell

29 Jun 2010 2:46 PM
(108768)
Check out RMS in Joondalup. http://www.richardsmining.com.au/training_heavyvehicle.php (Check the whole site, I just linked to a relevant page for this thread) They were advertising a few weeks back in the West Australian that they do a mine truck course for $2900 for a 5 day intensive course. They also run an in-house recruitment agency (see site) to help people get jobs after training, and are considered a 'preferred supplier' to the mining industry. Hope that helps a little. KIEREN
From tisme

To Kieren

29 Jun 2010 5:07 PM
(108769)
Thay is very expensive, total cost for my daughter was $160 per lesson then she had to book the truck for her test another $160, $800 in total. This price was a few years ago but can't imagine it would have gone up as much as richardsmining is charging. A five day intensive course is not needed, my daughter learnt it in 8 hours. I think richardsmining is taking the piss, for $2900 I would want a job guaranteed after training. http://www.makenestrucktraining.com.au/1.html
From Kieren

To tisme

29 Jun 2010 5:34 PM
(108770)
The course I stated was for the 'big as f**k' dumpers, not just heavy road haulage. RMS also have live jobs ready for successful candidates to start almost immediately. I phoned personally to inquire at the time the advert was published. Heavy goods vehicle drivers are ten-a-penny, and rates are pretty poor respectively IMHO. As Jimboman stated in an earlier post, average wage is around $35/hr, considerably more for 'mine site' dumper drivers. KIEREN
From tisme

To Kieren

29 Jun 2010 5:36 PM
(108771)
I am talking about the big as f**k dumpers, the ones where you climb a ladder to get in them.
From Kieren

To tisme

29 Jun 2010 6:15 PM
(108772)
Just spoke to Ray at Makene's, and he tells me they don't do driver training for the dumper trucks I was talking about! His training is for the heavy road haulage tipper type, which I do understand are cheaper to get a licence for. My details from RMS are for the big (typically yellow) dumper trucks... Also found another site quoting $1695 (current price), but these are based in QLD. http://iminco.net/dump-truck-course/ (pic of vehicle I am talking about is on that page) quote from site: Duration: 2 to 3 days The course is competency based and some clients may require more time. There are no additional fees should this be required. Cost The total cost for the course is $1695 So based on RMS doing a 5 day course, and iMINCO doing 2-3 full days, I'd say your $800, 8hr's course is for a different class of vehicle. KIEREN
From tisme

To Kieren

29 Jun 2010 6:29 PM
(108773)
All that is needed to drive the haul packs on a mine site is a HR syncromesh license, not much point in paying for extra if all you want to do is drive the haul packs on a mine. My daughter took lessons and her license with Ray Makene's, passed her test for the syncromesh License and is now driving the haul packs at the Mount Newman Mine, total cost $800, so whats the point in paying $2900. It's a rip off.
From Kieren

To tisme

29 Jun 2010 6:34 PM
(108774)
'total cost $800, so whats the point in paying $2900. It's a rip off.' 'This price was a few years ago but can't imagine it would have gone up as much as richardsmining is charging' Well obviously it has!! Welcome to WA - the 'rip off' state!! KIEREN
From tisme

To Kieren

29 Jun 2010 6:46 PM
(108775)
Well obviously it has!! Welcome to WA - the 'rip off' state!! Not so much of a rip off, just called Ray Makene's and the lessons have gone up to $100 an hour so a $20 increase in a couple of years is nothing considering how much fuel has increased in that time.
From Kris+Rob

To tisme

29 Jun 2010 7:06 PM
(108776)
So, if your daughter just has an HR licence didn't she have to do a course to drive the dump truck? Did the mine do its own training?
From vpopplewell

To Kieren

29 Jun 2010 8:10 PM
(108777)
Hi Kieren, Thanks for the info. This is the course my husband has done with RMS and paid just under $3000. It appears that they are full of promises just to get the money out of you. He past all the tests first time but in respect of them finding you a job afterwards is bull sh@t !! They said they would email after the course which he took about a month ago and they havn't even done that !!!!! It is just a money making racket !!!! Vanessa
From tisme

To Kris+Rob

29 Jun 2010 8:32 PM
(108778)
She doesn't have a full HR license only a synchromesh. She can't drive on a public road, only on a mine. Due to safety in the workplace EVERYONE (even experienced drivers as every mine is different) has to do 2 weeks in cab training, that is with another driver first as passenger then as driver. After 2 weeks they can drive alone.
From tisme

To vpopplewell

29 Jun 2010 8:34 PM
(108779)
I totally agree, they are taking money from people who are not sure of what the procedures are for mine site driving. They are thieving gits.
From jimboman

To tisme

29 Jun 2010 10:14 PM
(108780)
Too true. Some companies advertise forklift courses with promises of $30 an hour etc. etc. The fact is, that even the most experienced forkies will only get around $22.50 an hour (metro area).
From Kris+Rob

To Kieren

01 Jul 2010 8:22 PM
(108806)
The only way a truckie makes $35p/hr is by driving a roadtrain long distance and getting paid by the km travelled. Most truckie jobs pay $21 upwards. The bigger the truck, the bigger the pay packet. Chances of employment should improve with either a fork lift or hiab ticket.
From Kieren

To Kris+Rob

01 Jul 2010 9:33 PM
(108808)
Yes mate, that's right. The info and figures I've quoted are from a truck driving ex-neighbour who did long haul heavy load truck driving up to and beyond Newman on a regular basis. I considered a position (and hence change of profession) with the firm he worked for driving trucks too, so that was were my info was sourced, not just hearsay. But prospects changed in my own line of work and so declined the offer. KIEREN
From jimboman

To Kris+Rob

01 Jul 2010 10:00 PM
(108809)
The truckies who haul to the company I work for, start at 4.00am and drive down to Australind to load. They then drive up to Henderson to unload. Then they do the whole thing over again. Twice a day, every day, 5 days a week for $25 an hour. These are Aussie truckies, with years of experience.
From coopersrfive

To jimboman

20 Jul 2010 1:36 PM
(108979)
My hubby has been driving MC (road trains for many years) and has had a job in the mines He hears about jobs all the time . It is a case of who you know as well as having experience in driving various trucks. It takes time to network. there are a few mine jobs advertised through agencies and these are not as well paid but once you are in and have the experience in increases your chances. The mines are not a quick money earning arena they are long hours in extreme heat, it was also hard for me as i dont have any other family and i work it can be stressful especially when the kids get sick. the hourly rate may not look great but you are being fed and kept for that amount of time so i noticed my own shop bill etc decreased. Good luck the jobs are there its a case of putting yourself out there :-)
From Ricky+Sara

To coopersrfive

09 Aug 2010 9:20 AM
(109112)
you only need HR Aotomatic, I got mine from makeenes in 3 hours and work at FMG christmas creek as a serviceman, until thursday when i finish as it is to much bieng away from family.The money is ok as you do lots of hours (87.5 pw)one week days 1 week nights.we dont get o/t rates it all at flat rate,so not that good really it is just that you work,eat sleep for 14 days then when you come home you are rooted and and it takes two days to recover.If you are lucky enough and get a 8 on 6 off be a lot easier.