26 Aug 2005 9:47 PM
|A while ago someone (was it LIAM?????) posted a really good breakdown of what they had spent on furniture, electrical goods etc.
Does anyone know where I can find this? I have done a text search but so far I have been unlucky. I will just have to start going back over all the postings if no-one can help, but I thought I may be quicker asking.
We are still trying to work out if we should just ship a few bits and bobs and buy new furniture there (we don't really have much here of any great value). No wonder I can never get to sleep at night. So many question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
26 Aug 2005 10:18 PM
Sorry I can't help you out with finding the message (have you tried typing in Liams username in the author box?), but Maybe you could check out a few websites of some of the furniture/elecrical shops over here. Freedom furniture has a website, www.freedom.com.au/ and Rick hart electrical shop is www.rickhart.com.au/
I know both these sites have prices and pictures of goods. Some other shops to try and search maybe Harvey Norman, Myer and Good guys, can't think of any others! Oh and Ikea of course!!!
Hope this helps in some way
26 Aug 2005 10:30 PM
|we are looking at buying furniture at the moment and a decent bad will cost you about $900 plus another $300 for a good mattres. We have just got a flyer through the post box for a furniture place selling bed, nmattress, 2x bedside units and a dresser for $1500 which seems about the norm for most places and the quality is as good as you would get in a decent furniture store in the uk - not cheap plywood crap
Sofas are a bit cheaper than the UK but you need to hunt around a bit to find a decent one that doesn't look like a 70's throwback, as with all furniture you can pay as much or as little as you want to . We have a rather funny flyer here that has sofas for $899 that look like something my gran had 20 years ago but equally you can get nice stuff from Ikea or a number of other decent furniture stores.
We shipped nothing, no furniture and no white goods as all of our stuff was crap that needed replacing within a year anyway. Now I am here I don't regret it. It will be a bit of a hit to replace it all but our old stuff wouldn't have suited the house style here and would have cost us 3000 pounds more to ship out. That 3000 pounds will go a long way to furnishing a house, we have just managed to get a Dyson DC08 cylinder hoover for $500 from retavision and will be getting bedroom furniture as soon as we have sorted a rental|
26 Aug 2005 11:23 PM
I think the post you're talking about was from LIAM, titled 'Ops Plan B - final analysis' - you can find this by searching on that text in the Title.
27 Aug 2005 2:04 AM
That's the one I was looking for.
27 Aug 2005 11:28 AM
Just noticed that you wanted some info. on whether to ship or to buy new. If you are due to renew your funiture, then the obvious solution is to buy here. However, there are various things to consider that I have learned from my own mistakes.
1) You are gonna have personal stuff to ship so determine the volume of these items and then decide whether you are gonna to ship tea chests only or shared container.... then it's worth buying the funiture here.
2) If your volume is more than about 500 cu ft, then you are likely to be advise to get a 20 footer or share container + excess tea chests. In this case(if you decide on a 20 footer), you are open to other considerations on whether to ship some or all of the funiture even if they are a bit old and nuff since you are paying for extra volume.
Things to buy here are obviously the 'ops plan B' stuff but do bear in mind that one of the reason we are buying interims stuff here is because we can't sell our house then and have to leave the funiture(some a bit nuff and old) in the UK. There are advantages to buying here too, i.e. you'll get immediate home funishings and get a bed to sleep on within days of arriving vs shipping which took almost 6.5 weeks for PSS to get here... then you need to unload, unpack and rejig all the beds, tables and anything that you've flat pack for shipping. The funiture here are cheaper than the UK(depends on the xrates) in general but pine stuff are just as expensive cos they don't have much pine forests in this country. So consider shipping the pine items if you like these type of funiture(I did that cos we like pine... anyway pine looks different!!).
Other then that, the electricals are very cheap due to the nuff 'chinese goods' that are floading this country.... nuff I mean all the electricals that I bought in Big W have now gone back one way or another due to faulty manufacturing processes. It will last you at least 6 months of free use and then you get your money back... not a bad deal eh...lol.... well if they sell sub std stuff then I take advantage of it.
In general the way I did it was quite unexpected cos we ended up have about 600 cu ft so by the time we get a share container + excess teachests, we ended paying a couple of hundred quid less than a 20 footer so I'd ordered a 20 footer anyway..
If I were you, I'll take this one step at a time and don't panic.. in the end it will all worked out.. PROMISE.. it's not as daunting as you think.. the 1st step I recommend is to look around the house and junk things that you can't sell in a car booty.. you'll be surprise how refreshing you feel...lol.. really really just getting rid of old baggages of your previous life a bit like a snake getting rid of the old skin!!
Take care me ol' matey.. don't stress yourself too much.. not worth it.
27 Aug 2005 7:21 PM
Thanks for the tips.
We have only enough furniture for a shared container as we were never going to be taking any beds (we all need new ones). Apart from our leather setee we don't really have any expensive stuff, so the thinking is maybe we will just ship our tv (almost new & we would get very little selling it) and some boxes of kids stuff, computer etc. The rest we can hopefully sell.
We are just waiting on one more quote then we will have to make up our minds, but at the moment I think we probably will just buy the majority when we get there. I know alot of people say take everything which I think is probably right if you are paying for a full container, but I think in our case it probably doesn't make sense.
31 Aug 2005 2:18 PM
|hi,i have been looking for prices on furniture.i went into yahoo then pressed on yahoo aus&n.z then pressed shopping.their are loads of different price ranges on everything you need.hope this is a help to you.beth|
02 Sep 2005 2:12 AM
|For anyone moving from Canada, we are moving back to Perth and found that Wood furniture (especially Pine) was cheaper there, we found the rest of furniture is preety on par with Canadian costs. Tip: If you are shipping a container, put in lots of toothpaste, shampoo,etc, these items are expensive in Perth, also flat screen tv's are double the oost, along with laptops, you can buy them here with dual voltage and take. IF you pack a container yourself, make sure you go in beofre you pack and look for any light -don't want any holes!!|
03 Sep 2005 1:25 AM
|Selina - Thank you for the wonderful tips and information. We, too, are moving from Canada - to Perth. (I used to live there 15 years ago) We are taking our dog also - and have just began the paperwork with regard to her transport. It's not often that we come across other Canadians that are making the permanent move to Australia. As such, any further tips and advice is always welcome. Regards.|
03 Sep 2005 1:37 AM
|Pasha, how wonderful that we are in the same boat (excuse the pun). We too lived in Perth and returned with our dog 'Kelpie X'. He is leaving on November 8th and booked into Byford on Nov 10th, appartently you have to book the space ahead at Byford, have you done this? They may not allow you to book until you get your export cert. Also another tip, he is flying into Narita/Japan airport then on to Peth, I am putting a note on his crate in japanese to check his water, when he arrived from Perth the bowl was dry. The Varri Kennels are IATA approved and good, I picked one up second hand from a notice at the vet. Also, I am checking all his paperwork closely and tracking as most vets hav'nt enjoyed the experience of AQIS paperwork for Australia. Please contact me if you have any questions that I could help with. When is your dog flying out? I am stocking up on designer clothes from Winners (much more in Perth) also, name brand shoes for my sons,double the price in Perth. Oh.. and coffee of course! We are located in Cambridge, Ontario, regards, Selina & Bill|
03 Sep 2005 2:16 AM
|Selina - we are just in the very early stages of everything right now. Our business skills visa was just granted on August 24th - so we're still dealing with the excitement of having just received the wonderful news!!! We live in Alberta - and have recently discovered a relatively local 'pet shipping' company - which was recommended by our veterinarian. We had a very extensive conversation with her (the shipper) - and she has put our minds at ease with her knowledge and expertise. She has shipped numerous pets to both Australia and New Zealand, and has given us loads of valuable information. Her services include that of ensuring that all of the relevant documentation is completed, and that space at Byford is booked accordingly. Will you be shipping 'Kelpie X' yourselves - or using the services of a shipping agent? We will be heading out to purchase our IATA-approved kennel next week. Thank you kindly for suggesting 'Varri Kennels' (we've written it down). I must say - our biggest concern with this whole move is most definitely that of our little pride n' joy!!! We just hope n' pray that she's not too traumatized by the whole event.
How wonderful to find another 'Winners' lover!!! I visit our local Winners a few times each week - and always manage to get the greatest bargains!!! It's been so many years since I've been in Australia - I don't even know if they have an equivalent to Winners. Oh Well - It's not like I even care really!!! Give me a warm climate any day - over fashionable finds!!!
Coffee...??? When I was last there, I was not a coffee drinker - As such, paid no attention!!! However, I do LOVE coffee now!!! Is it difficult to find good brands of coffee??? Again.....no big deal.....just curious?
We must be in Australia no later than June 2006. However, it is our intention to get out of here much sooner than that!!! For us, it really depends on the sale of our business now - which is looking promising.
Looking forward to continued posts.
03 Sep 2005 3:10 AM
|thank you for your message, Congratulations, yes the stress of sending the dog is high on the list. We brought ours back from Perth in 2002 (age 6 years) he was just fine, arrived full of life, so have no worries. Happy to hear you have a good shipper, we are sending Louie 'the dog' ourselves as this will save us about $800, a bit of a hastle, but it is well underway now and going ok so far. We got his rabies titre test done 5 weeks after his rabies shot and the results were v high - good! I have found a wonderful Government Vet (Canada Food Inspection Agency)who has been so helpful. We are also sending and packing a container ourselves (this is our 3rd container), my husband has it down pat now! There is no Winners in Perth! but Target, Big W = Wal-Mart and other similar stores. I found clothes and shoes to be cheaper than Canada, coffee is expensive and sold in small quantities - in fact, unlike Canada, everything is still in small quantities in the supermarket, also brand shampoo ie; Pantene is over double the cost. Perth is so vibrant now and the transit system is excellent! I can't wait to get back - no more snow for us! Remember! don't bring any foodstuff in that contains egg or milk, they took my Aunt Jemina pancake mix from me last time. Also, if you bring in anything that contains feathers, ie; comforter/pillows, there is a high chance that they will spray your container, so I have allowed for the cost just in case. We are also in the process of selling a house, just another tip, I would get your tax file number before depositing too much money into an Australian bank account as they will tax monies deposited without the number. I have a WA newspaper (The West - August edition) if you need to know anything in particular, I can check the paper for you. Another thing, I remember, if you guys are going in June, remember it's winter, I moved last time in June and forgot about the cold nights (god bless hot water bottles). We are starting to get Louie used to his crate and are extending his time in it day by day, he is fine with it so far. I think the worst for me is that they put a seal on the crate and it can't be opened, so I am checking out obsorbant bedding for him. Also, I found a huge difference in flight prices between a large crate (which fits Louie) and an ex-large crate for more comfort - about $600 extra. Sounds like you have a smaller dog. Looking forward to hearing from you, and yes, would love to catch up with you guys in Perth, good luck with the sale! Kind regards, Selina and Bill|
03 Sep 2005 4:02 AM
|Selina - Thank you for the FANTASTIC post!!! I'm just like a sponge right now - what with soaking up any and all information that comes my way with regard to this move!!!
It's great that you are sending your dog without the services of an agent. It sounds as though you are familiar with the process (having been through it before). As such, going it alone will certainly save some dollars. I'm glad to hear that your dog survived the trip back from Perth just fine - and was full of life upon arrival!!! That helps put my mind at ease!!!
We, too, have been in contact with a very helpful lady with the Canada Food Inspection Agency. It's been a blessing to have her help guide us through this process.
We will be ensuring that 'Sailor' (Boston Terrier) gets acquainted with her crate as soon as we get it - and will be encouraging her to spend some time in it. Yes - it will be difficult when they put the seal on the crate!!! Our little girl will scream her head off - I can just hear it now!!!!
I'd love to hear what you decide on for absorbent bedding. Our shipper has advised that they often use only shredded paper - as she's heard of dogs chewing their bedding, and ending up in surgery upon arrival. She advises that shredded paper is atleast digestible in the event that they decide to chew on it. As we've never been through this process before, it seems as though it makes good sense. Any thoughts would certainly be welcome.
Thank you for the wonderful packing tips!!! It's all very much appreciated!!!
In addition, thank you for the Tax File Number information. We will be meeting with our international tax advisors within the next week or so. I'm sure that they will advise the same thing - and am eager to get their expert advice on all of the tax matters.
Yes - I do remember the cold Perth winters very well - even though it was 15 years ago!!! I remember well because I was not prepared for them - and suffered greatly - what with a wardrobe consisting of mainly shorts n' skirts!!! We will certainly be much more prepared this time around - for those chilly winter days / nights in Perth!!!
We, too, look forward to keeping in touch. It's not often that we come across other Canadians going through this process.
03 Sep 2005 6:19 AM
Sorry to butt in on this thread, But I found it very interesting. I too have thought of packing our own container, will be our second move, the packers did it the first time. How and who do you need to contact in Perth to arrange it all? We are moving from New Zealand, we have a bird, cockateil, that we would love to take with, and New Zealand is the only country I believe that Australia allows to bring birds in from!
Would appreciate any help and advice.
03 Sep 2005 6:46 AM
|I think you would have to contact a Freight Company in New Zealand, then you could pack the container yourselves. I found several 'Freight Forwarders' in Canada, the container arrives in Fremantle (Port), Perth, then either have the container delivered to your residence in Perth or we found it cheaper to hire movers to meet us in Fremantle Port (because you have to go and clear customs yourself anyway), move the contents of the container to a large truck and back to the residence in Perth, sounds complicated, but I found it quite simple and hasstle free. If I remember correctly, it costs more to move the container to your residence in Perth becuse we would have had to return the container. if packing yourself, pack tight as we found the rocking of the trian/ship marked some items that were moving, old t-shirts are great for protecting corners of furniture, and we filled drawers with delicate items for protection (every corner of the container had something)this is our third container (all packed ourselves)so far, everthing arrive in good shape and we saved at least $800. As for your bird, try wwwAQIS.com.au, should be some information on the site. Australian Quarantine and Inspection Service. best of luck with everything! hope some of this informtion helped!|
03 Sep 2005 12:38 PM
|Thanks for you help Selina, so good to know that others are out there trying to do the same as us. Good luck with your move, when do you plan to arrive in Perth?